God and Fun are Synonyms - Pam Grout - life, death, and joy. (Part 1 - 10 minute read)

The full interview can be found on my Youtube Channel https://youtu.be/XU5tzk7x3VQ?si=MD8h_LJRK_QzPL38

Fran: So tell me your history Pam.

Pam: Well, it's funny. I feel like I just followed my heart from the beginning. And I think in some ways my path is been to try to get away from all the rules and all the shoulds and all the ways were taught to be by our culture.

You know, our culture teaches us to be afraid. It teaches us that the world is scarce. It teaches us that things are limited and there's only so much to go around. And on some deep level, I think every child knows that's not true. And then we get inculturated to believe these things.And while I was certainly infiltrated with the best of, you know, I think there was a part of me that always hung on to this deeper knowing that there has to be more than this.

Pam Grout

Author, Blogger, Humanitarian and Lover of Fun and Hedgehogs

Pam Grout is the #1 New York Times bestselling author of 20 books including E-Squared: 9 Do-it-Yourself Energy Experiments that Prove Your Thoughts Create Your Reality and 
The Course in Miracles Experiment: A Starter Kit for Rewiring Your Mind (and Therefore the World.) She’s a freelance writer who has published with Scientific American Explorations, Outside, Men’s Journal, People magazine, Travel + Leisure, and many other publications. She’s the creator of the TV series Going Rogue, and the wacky proliferator behind two popular blogs. Her current focus is the 222 Foundation she started to honor her magical daughter, Tasman, who has been guiding her from the nonphysical since October 15, 2018. Pam can be reached at www.pamgrout.com and @PamGrout on all the socials.

Our culture teaches us to be afraid. It teaches us that the world is scarce. It teaches us that things are limited and there's only so much to go around. And on some deep level, I think every child knows that's not true.

And so, you know, the time I was going to university, all the rage was going into computers. And, you know, my sister went into computers and had a very good career at that.But I always loved writing. And that's a very, not a very sensible career path according to most people, but it's what I love to do.

And I was just, maybe night even enough. Um, maybe I don't know.I just thought, well, I can do it. I can become a writer. I can make a living as a writer. Or at least I can do what I love to do. And that's what I'm gonna do.

And it just like one step led to the next step to the next step in fact, I kind of have to laughing.You said you weren't always here, wherever here is, but I mean, I feel like I'm still here, you know, in the same place.

It's just that I have had some success with my writing and I'm just very, very grateful.But I probably could still be here without having that success, still writing, you know, cause that is what I love to do. And that's the path that I have pretty much followed. Is, you know, my heart which said, you love to ride.

Fran: And, for 25 years, you've been able to do that quite comfortably.

Pam: Well, more than that, now I've been on my own as a freelance writer for a really long time now, as I say, my sometimes updated website, I don't know, maybe you saw that on my website or something, but yeah, I've been writing on my own for a long time, lot more 25 years now.

Fran: So I'm going to start by letting you know that I went on a crash course of Pam Grout after you said, yes. I became very humble when I found out, oh my God, this E squared book has, it was a New York Times best seller. And I'm like, Fran get with the program here.So I did, I mean, I didn't even order from Amazon, I downloaded it right away from audible. And I think you narrated it, right?

Pam: The E2. Yes, I did read it. So you're used to hearing my voice if you've listened to the Audible version of E-Squared.

Fran: So right at the beginning, you talk about how to tune into an upgraded frequency, ,

Pam: Yeah, the hypotheses, right, oh, , yes, in the, in the E squared and in E- cube, I put in experiments, and I set them up same way that a scientist would set up an experiment with.Here's my hypothesis. Here's a spiritual principle that you've probably heard before.Like, for example, the first one, any squared is just that there is this force out there.

Some call it god, some call it universe, some call it, you know, the divine buzz. I've called it that I have a lot of different synonyms, but that there is truly this force out there.

And so that's experiment No.1. So if indeed that is true, and you can actually contact this, or it will contact you, it will provide you with a gift, some kind of sign.

And so basically what those two books do is get us to pay attention to different things. Because we spend our lives, you know, with our our attention in our world directed in the way that our culture, our families tell us to direct our attention.

But this is a way of changing our attention to look for something bigger, higher, more beautiful. And we find that when we start looking for that, it's there. It's very, very apparently there. So it's just a different reorienting where you're spending your time and your attention.

Fran: One of the stories that you related, I think, I think it's in the first book, is E Squared is about the Dolphins. Can you tell us about that dolphin story?

Pam: About the lady who wanted, oh, okay. So that was in the revised version of East Squared.E Squared celebrated 10 years and let's see what's in 2023.

So we came out with a 10 year, anniversary edition and so in the introduction for that, I told a story of a woman that had been doing the E squared experiment.

And as I recall, you know, I get so many of these stories, they kind of, you know and that was one that had just come to my attention when I was writing that particular introduction to the new, the new edition. But did she had asked to see dolphins? I believe that was what she had asked from the universe.

And so she was camping with her family at a beach, only like maybe just a little bit off the beach and she had walked down there and she saw what she thought were dolphins in the distance, but she wasn't 100% sure.

She was turn around to walk back and some told her to look back again and there, there was a whole bunch of them and they were dancing and jumping and quick, all kinds of things, but I can't seem like she saw like maybe a dozen dolphins.

I'll have to reread that story again. But yes, it was, kind of an amazing manifestation where she had like, do I really trust this? Do I really believe that's what I'm seeing up there? We have to be this close you know, and they were right there and turned out they came almost like they swam over to say, oh, here I am.

Fran: Yeah, and I think in the story she does swim with them, like in nature, like out in an ocean and more of them come.

Pam: Oh, that's right, that's right thank you for reminding me. You've, obviously just read it whereas it's been a while ago. So anyway, yes, that is exactly right. So pretty amazing story.

Fran: Yes, right. So talking about if there really is this universal energy force, and if that universal energy force really has my best interest in mind, let's see it happen, dude.

You know, I think we take things like spirituality be so serious. You know, the universe has a great sense of humor and there's so much beauty and goodness and fun and the universe.

Pam: Yeah, exactly. And I love when you just said do because it's written in a real informal manner. You know, I think we take things like spirituality be so serious. You know, the universe has a great sense of humor and there's so much beauty and goodness and fun and the universe.

So I kind of try to keep it at a very light level because I think a, you're more apt to do it. Again, you know, you're more to stick with it if it's fun and be, it's just more fun to read something in a little more, you know, low brow I suppose, way of writing. So that's kind of my style is to make it real accessible to everybody and not make it too high fallutant or too, I don't know, though. It's, you know, you got to pronounce God, right? Or whatever. It's just force.

Fran: So yeah, I, I see that in your writing and it actually in your voice when you narrated it, it was, lots of laughing at yourself to. So I really appreciated that.

Fran: So what's the FP, Pam?

Pam: The FA is what I called the field of infinite potentiality. Again, many synonyms for this field that's out there. You know, physics has proven there's a field that we can back in filming, that's a physics term, that field.

And there's a field of energy. And so basically the E squared is energy squared. There is energy and we're all made up of energy. You know, we look solid, we look material, but all of us are 99.9 whatever percent empty space. I mean, that's what's true.

E squared is energy squared. There is energy and we're all made up of energy. You know, we look solid, we look material, but all of us are 99.9 whatever percent empty space.

And then we have this illusion of this collapsed wave of being material, but it's actually more empty energy.

But so we're in energy. That's who we are. And our energy, you know, transmits the greater energy and our energy interacts with all the other energy. And so, you know, we're all part of this big giant energetic field.

I just chose to call it the field of Infinite Potentiality or the FP for short. And as I say over and over in my work, it doesn't matter what you call it. It only matters that you call it forth...

And so I just chose to call it the field of infinite potentiality or the FP for short. And as I say over and over in my work, it doesn't matter what you call it. It only matters that you call it forth, you know, like that what matter. So, you know, you can call it anything,

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